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What Did Carly Fiorina Really Say About Islam After 9-11? | Gates of Vienna (Known as a Reliable “Source”:Kahn)(PS:C Orig. comments

 

What Did Carly Fiorina Really Say About Islam After 9-11?

With the 2016 presidential campaign now fully underway, I’ve been seeing a lot of the alleged quote about Islam from a speech given by Carly Fiorina, then the CEO of Hewlett-Packard, a couple of weeks after 9-11. One instance of it was pasted in a comment on last night’s post about Obama:

“…Not only was the civilization of Islam capable of defeating arrogant and proud empires. It displayed a complexity and richness unmatched and able to unite the human race under the truest and most harmonious way of life, that even the more honest of the kuffar are able to glimpse.”

That quote has been floating around on the Internet for years. I’ve always been suspicious of it, mainly because of its inclusion of the word “kuffar”. It seemed unlikely that a CEO of Hewlett-Packard would use it, especially not back in September 2001, when 99% of Americans had never heard the word.

So I did some careful searching, and tracked down what seems to be the source of the supposed quote. It appeared in an article at Militant Islam Monitor — which is a reliable source — but it was not presented as Ms. Fiorina’s words. MIM was quoting from a text on a now-defunct Hizb ut-Tahrir website. That version does not accurately reflect the words spoken by Ms. Fiorina in September 2001.

The prepared text of her speech is available at the Hewlett-Packard website. A global search of that page reveals no instance of the words “arrogant” or “kuffar”. What we have been seeing is evidently a paraphrase that had been modified from the original when it passed through thecorpus islamosum in the brain of some Hizb ut-Tahrir writer.

Her publicly-presented remarks about Islam comprised the last 500 words of a 3,600-word speech given on September 26, 2001. The text of that section is posted below. As you can see, her ideas about Islam were clearly drawn from the Muslim Brotherhood “narrative”, which even then had already been successfully inserted into the minds of the oligarchs who manage political, cultural, and commercial affairs in the United States.

Her actual words are bad enough. Let’s not discredit ourselves as reporters and historians by presenting an urban legend as if it were an authoritative fact.

Here’s the official transcript of what Carly Fiorina said about Islam on September 26, 2001:

I’ll end by telling a story.

There was once a civilization that was the greatest in the world.

It was able to create a continental super-state that stretched from ocean to ocean, and from northern climes to tropics and deserts. Within its dominion lived hundreds of millions of people, of different creeds and ethnic origins.

One of its languages became the universal language of much of the world, the bridge between the peoples of a hundred lands. Its armies were made up of people of many nationalities, and its military protection allowed a degree of peace and prosperity that had never been known. The reach of this civilization’s commerce extended from Latin America to China, and everywhere in between.

And this civilization was driven more than anything, by invention. Its architects designed buildings that defied gravity. Its mathematicians created the algebra and algorithms that would enable the building of computers, and the creation of encryption. Its doctors examined the human body, and found new cures for disease. Its astronomers looked into the heavens, named the stars, and paved the way for space travel and exploration.

Its writers created thousands of stories. Stories of courage, romance and magic. Its poets wrote of love, when others before them were too steeped in fear to think of such things.

When other nations were afraid of ideas, this civilization thrived on them, and kept them alive. When censors threatened to wipe out knowledge from past civilizations, this civilization kept the knowledge alive, and passed it on to others.

While modern Western civilization shares many of these traits, the civilization I’m talking about was the Islamic world from the year 800 to 1600, which included the Ottoman Empire and the courts of Baghdad, Damascus and Cairo, and enlightened rulers like Suleiman the Magnificent.

Although we are often unaware of our indebtedness to this other civilization, its gifts are very much a part of our heritage. The technology industry would not exist without the contributions of Arab mathematicians. Sufi poet-philosophers like Rumi challenged our notions of self and truth. Leaders like Suleiman contributed to our notions of tolerance and civic leadership.

And perhaps we can learn a lesson from his example: It was leadership based on meritocracy, not inheritance. It was leadership that harnessed the full capabilities of a very diverse population — that included Christianity, Islamic, and Jewish traditions.

This kind of enlightened leadership — leadership that nurtured culture, sustainability, diversity and courage — led to 800 years of invention and prosperity.

In dark and serious times like this, we must affirm our commitment to building societies and institutions that aspire to this kind of greatness. More than ever, we must focus on the importance of leadership — bold acts of leadership and decidedly personal acts of leadership.

With that, I’d like to open up the conversation and see what we, collectively, believe about the role of leadership.

http://gatesofvienna.net/2015/08/what-did-carly-fiorina-really-say-about-islam-after-9-11/

CAIR biting bullets over AR-15 with Bible verse

CAIR biting bullets over AR-15 with Bible verse

(Image: Spike’s Tactical, Facebook) A Florida gun manufacturer hopes Islamic terrorists will shun its new AR-15 rifle – “The Crusader” – like pork. Spike’s Tactical, based in Apopka, Fla., has created a rifle with a Bible verse, Psalm 144:1, laser-etched into its side: “Blessed be the Lord my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my… (more…)

Judge jails Christian clerk

Judge jails Christian clerk

A federal court judge who previously has sided with arguments for partial birth abortion and homosexual clubs in public schools on Thursday ordered a county clerk from Kentucky who refused to violate her faith and issue “same-sex marriage” licenses to go to jail. The ruling came from Judge David Bunning, who said fines were not enough… (more…)

Eerie Statistics Predict Coming Shemitah Market Collapse: “Only 8 Trading Days Until Wipe Out Day” –

Eerie Statistics Predict Coming Shemitah Market Collapse: “Only 8 Trading Days Until Wipe Out Day”

stock-market-crash

The end of the Shemitah cycle is fast approaching, and many are worried about an impending collapse, particularly considering we have already seen unprecedented stock market decline.

And history is not on our side. The past five Shemitah cycles have ended in crashes – and this one could be the worst yet.

Unfortunately the numbers don’t lie, and now a respected statistician has proven the mathematical validity behind the Shemitah theory of collapse. WND reports:

Thomas Pound is an educator and mathematician who applies his statistical wizardry to the markets.

Only eight more trading days remain until the dreaded Elul 29, which is the final day of the Shemitah year, known as “wipe out day” on the Hebrew calendar.

“Statistically, it appears that the calendar years in which the Sabbatical year ends are worse than the other six years, and that difference is significant based on the data I have,” Pound told Breaking Israel News.

“In September, we can expect something really bad.”

Cahn pointed out that the years 1973, 1980, 1987, 2001 and 2008 were all Shemitah years that saw stock markets collapse.

The biggest ever single-day stock market crash occurred on Sept. 29, 2008, when the Dow fell 777.7 points and lost $1.2 trillion in value. This day also happened to be Elul 29, the last day of the Jewish year, one day before Rosh Hashana, signaling the end of the Shemitah cycle.

Statistician Thomas Pound isn’t the only prominent figure predicting collapse.

Economic commentators Gerald Celente and Michael Snyder have also warned of a coming collapse, after noting the dire predictions of numerous financial gurus.

One of those is Jeff Berwick, the libertarian anarcho-capitalist and editor of Dollar Vigilante, who has warned in no uncertain terms that the potential for a terrible collapse is headed our way in September. USA Watchdog reported:

Financial expert Jeff Berwick says you don’t have to wait for the next market crash. Berwick contends that financial facts and the so-called Shemitah are lining up and predicting a coming calamity. Berwick, who recently produced a video titled “Shemitah Exposed,” explains, “I think it’s already started. I put up that video in July, and by the end of August, we were already seeing major crashes happening around the world. The Chinese stock market has been in complete free fall. Of course, what happened in Greece, everyone knows about that, and there are actually 20 other stock exchanges . . . have all been in a crash in the last few weeks. My question is did the Shemitah start early this year or are these going to be pre-shocks to something that is going to be much, much worse?”

“September is going to be incredibly volatile and risky, and it might not just be September.”

Every time the Federal Reserve says it will print a lot of money, the stock market goes up. I think, this time, a lot more people are aware of how this system is hanging by a thread. If the only answer they have to fix it is to keep printing money and for government to keep going into debt . . . …I think a lot of people are going to wake up and say we’re headed for Zimbabwe. We are headed for complete hyperinflation if this keeps up.”

Obviously, we have already seen things starting to come unglued on the stock market and in pivotal events around the globe.

Things are poised for a crash, and the Shemitah would fit hand-in-glove with a total collapse, whether it comes in September or not.

Whatever you do, be prepared. It could get ugly.

Courtesy of SHTFplan.com

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http://www.dcclothesline.com/2015/09/04/eerie-statistics-predict-coming-shemitah-market-collapse-only-8-trading-days-until-wipe-out-day/

Must students deny religion to get college degree?

Must students deny religion to get college degree?

Duccio di Buoninsegna – “Maestà” (Will future post-Christianized generations think people wore gold plated hats and had wings in the past?) Try to grasp the essence of what the great artists, the serious masters, say in their masterpieces, and you will again find God in them. – Vincent Van Gogh, 1880 In 2011, writer Sally Quinn… (more…)

When Muslims Betray Non-Muslim Friends and Neighbors

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Let believers not take for friends and allies infidels rather than believers: and whoever does this shall have no relationship left with Allah—unless you but guard yourselves against them, taking precautions – Koran 3:28

Days ago, after the Islamic State [IS] entered the Syrian city of Hassakè, prompting a mass exodus of Christians, a familiar, though often overlooked scene, took place: many otherwise “normal” Muslims joinedranks with IS, instantly turning on their longtime Christian neighbors.

This is the third category of Muslims that lurks between “moderates” and “radicals”: “sleepers,” Muslims who appear “moderate” but who are merely waiting for circumstances to turn to Islam’s advantage before they join the jihad; Muslims who are waiting for the rewards of jihad to become greater than the risks.

There is no lack of examples of these types of Muslims. The following are testimonials from non-Muslims, mostly Christian refuges from those regions of Iraq and Syria now under Islamic State (or other jihadi) control. Consider what they say about their longtime Sunni neighbors who appeared “moderate”—or at least nonviolent—but who, once the jihad came to town, exposed their true colors:

Georgios, a man from the ancient Christian town of Ma‘loula—one of the few areas in the world where the language of Christ was still spoken—toldof how Muslim neighbors he knew all his life turned on the Christians after al-Nusra, another jihadi outfit, invaded in 2013:

We knew our Muslim neighbours all our lives. Yes, we knew the Diab family were quite radical, but we thought they would never betray us. We ate with them. We are one people.

A few of the Diab family had left months ago and we guessed they were with the Nusra [al-Qaeda front]. But their wives and children were still here. We looked after them. Then, two days before the Nusra attacked, the families suddenly left the town. We didn’t know why. And then our neighbours led our enemies in among us.

The Christian man explained with disbelief how he saw a young member of the Diab family whom he knew from youth holding a sword and leading foreign jihadis to Christian homes. Continues Georgios:

We had excellent relations. It never occurred to us that Muslim neighbours would betray us. We all said “please let this town live in peace — we don’t have to kill each other.” But now there is bad blood. They brought in the Nusra to throw out the Christians and get rid of us forever. Some of the Muslims who lived with us are good people but I will never trust 90 per cent of them again.

A teenage Christian girl from Homs, Syria—which once had a Christian population of approximately 80,000, but which is now reportedly zero—relates her story:

We left because they were trying to kill us. . . . They wanted to kill us because we were Christians. They were calling us Kaffirs [infidels], even little children saying these things. Those who were our neighbors turned against us. At the end, when we ran away, we went through balconies. We did not even dare go out on the street in front of our house. I’ve kept in touch with the few Christian friends left back home, but I cannot speak to my Muslim friends any more. I feel very sorry about that. (Crucified Again, p. 207)

When asked who exactly threatened and drove Christians out of Mosul, which fell to the Islamic State a year ago, another anonymous Christian refugee responded:

We left Mosul because ISIS came to the city. The [Sunni Muslim] people of Mosul embraced ISIS and drove the Christians out of the city. When ISIS entered Mosul, the people hailed them and drove out the Christians….

The people who embraced ISIS, the people who lived there with us… Yes, my neighbors. Our neighbors and other people threatened us. They said: “Leave before ISIS get you.” What does that mean? Where would we go?… Christians have no support in Iraq. Whoever claims to be protecting the Christians is a liar. A liar!

Nor is such Muslim treachery limited to Christians. Other “infidels,” Yazidis for example, have experienced the same betrayal. Discussing IS invasion of his village, a 68-year-old Yazidi man who managed to flee the bloody offensive—which included the slaughter of many Yazidi men and enslavement of women and children—said:

The (non-Iraqi) jihadists were Afghans, Bosnians, Arabs and even Americans and British fighters…. But the worst killings came from the people living among us, our (Sunni) Muslim neighbours…. The Metwet, Khawata and Kejala tribes—they were all our neighbours. But they joined the IS, took heavy weapons from them, and informed on who was Yazidi and who was not. Our neighbours made the IS takeover possible.

Likewise, watch this 60 Minuteinterview with a Yazidi woman. When asked why people she knew her whole life would suddenly join IS and savagely turn on her people, she replied:

I can’t tell you exactly, but it has to be religion. It has to be religion. They constantly asked us to convert, but we refused. Before this, they never mentioned it. Prior, we thought of each other as family. But I say, it has to be religion.

Lest it seem that this phenomenon of Sunni betrayal is limited to Islamic jihad in Mesopotamia, know that it has occurred historically and currently in other nations. The following anecdote from the Ottoman Empire is over 100 years old:

Then one night, my husband came home and told me that the padisha [sultan] had sent word that we were to kill all the Christians in our village, and that we would have to kill our neighbours. I was very angry, and told him that I did not care who gave such orders, they were wrong. These neighbours had always been kind to us, and if he dared to kill them Allah would pay us out. I tried all I could to stop him, but he killed them — killed them with his own hand. (Sir Edwin Pears, Turkey and Its People, London: Methuen and Co., 1911, p. 39)

And in Nigeria—a nation that shares little with Syria, Iraq, or Turkey, other than Islam—a jihadi attack on Christians that left five churches destroyed and several Christians killed was enabled by “local Muslims”:

The Muslims in this town were going round town pointing out church buildings and shops owned by Christians to members of Boko Haram, and they in turn bombed these churches and shops.

Such similar patterns of traitorous behavior—patterns that cross continents and centuries, patterns that regularly appear whenever Muslims live alongside non-Muslims—are easily understood by turning to Koran 3:28:

Let believers [Muslims] not take infidels [non-Muslims] for friends and allies instead of believers. Whoever does this shall have no relationship left with God—unless you but guard yourselves against them, taking precautions. But Allah cautions you [to fear] Himself. For the final goal is to Allah.

Here is how Islam’s most authoritative ulema and exegetes explain Koran 3:28:

Muhammad ibn Jarir at-Tabari (d. 923), author of a standard and authoritative commentary of the Koran, writes:

If you [Muslims] are under their [non-Muslims’] authority, fearing for yourselves, behave loyally to them with your tongue while harboring inner animosity for them … [know that] Allah has forbidden believers from being friendly or on intimate terms with the infidels rather than other believers—except when infidels are above them [in authority]. Should that be the case, let them act friendly towards them while preserving their religion.

Ibn Kathir (d. 1373), another prime authority on the Koran, writes:

The Most High said, “[U]nless you but guard yourselves against them, taking precautions”—that is, whoever at any time or place fears their evil may protect himself through outward show—not sincere conviction. As al-Bukhari records through Abu al-Darda the words [of the Prophet], “Truly, we grin to the faces of some peoples, while our hearts curse them.”

In other words, Muslims are not to befriend non-Muslims, unless circumstances are such that it is in the Muslims’ interests to do so. For example, if Muslims are a minority (as in America), or if their leaders brutally crack down on jihadi activities (as in Bashar Assad’s pre-Islamic State Syria): then they may preach and even feign peace, tolerance and coexistence with their non-Muslim neighbors.

However, if and when circumstances to make Islam supreme appear, Muslims are expected to join the jihad—“for the final goal is to Allah.”[1]

[1]For more on Islamic sanctioned forms of deception, read abouttaqiyyatawriya, and taysir.  For more on how Muslims are never to befriend non-Muslims—except when in their interest—see Ayman al-Zawahiri’s “Loyalty and Enmity,” The Al Qaeda Reader, pgs., 63-115.

http://humanevents.com/2015/07/09/when-muslims-betray-non-muslim-friends-and-neighbors/?utm_source=hedaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl

Are culture-war losses really irreversible?

Are culture-war losses really irreversible?

Many Christians in America have been discouraged and downhearted since the Supreme Court’s infamous June ruling in which the justices voted 5-4 to redefine marriage. We have been told that “the ship has sailed,” that we have lost the culture wars and that it’s time to accept the new reality and move on. But the recent… (more…)

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